Sunday, November 9, 2014

Re: [digital-photography] Re: And yet another one

 

Thanks for that, appreciate it. The US has been a pioneer in the world with its Bill of Rights and amendment for Freedom of Expression. Sadly it is sometimes violated. China has similar rights, but they have struggled to implement them, but the last few years they have been successful. The culture is also different. Police actually like that people film them here, at an incident you may have 30-40 people with mobiles filming, and that clears the police from any false accusations. Police is much liked and supported in China and nearly always go unarmed, not even handcuffs or pepper spray. The only restrictions are that everyone has a right to opt out, a person don't want to be photographed on close range, they have the right not to. Another is photos that defame, degrade or insult, and there is a nearly 2,000 year old law against spreading of false and misleading rumors or gossip. It is here many foreign journalists get caught out, they are looking for cheap sensation and dirt rather than the true story. I never had any problems anywhere, including unrest in Tibet, stories on pollution and waste recovery, or be present at closed congresses where senior officials are voted into power. Every country, I have seen a few now, are different, and it just to learn how to work the system.



On 10-Nov-2014 11:11 AM, J Bryan Kramer codeburner@gmail.com [digital-photography] wrote:
 
You live in China? That explains a lot.

Yes photographers have been arrested here, in the US for photography. Most of us hope for such great good luck. As soon as they leave the jailhouse they head straight to a lawyer and the results have varied between $50,000 and $250,000 judgements against the agency that arrested them. 


That one wasn't a building but there are plenty of other examples. You see we have something that most of the rest of the world doesn't: A Bill of Rights in the Constitution.

And by the way buildings cannot be copyrighted in the US and you can take photos as long as you are standing on public property. Exceptions are military bases and such.

BK


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On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Robin Gee robingee@yandex.com [digital-photography] <digital-photography@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


To return this to the subject of photography.

 

I think it is very important that everyone understands what is going on, so they can either implement some protection, or avoid the pitfalls. A EU photographer visited me once here in China, and he take photos of buildings with a wooden glass plate camera. He told me he had been arrested many times in EU for suspected terrorist preparations. Did you know that photographing buildings and bridges in EU can be a copyright violation? A tram enthusiast in Philadelphia was arrested and interrogated for hours after photographing a tram. Two Japanese photographing military installations and recording the GPS position in China was fined $3,000 and ordered out within 24 hours.

 

Did you know that there is a court decision in EU that it is a copy right offense to pass you legally bought e-book to someone else, selling or giving it away.

 

If you want to know what Kindle monitors, look at my previous post. That is what we know, what is it we don't know. You are watched, and if you don't like that they have access to your device to monitor and erase, tough, they decide, you just dance to their pipe, or stay away. All "locked" systems, as Apple, are well known to have access to your system.



On 09-Nov-2014 9:55 PM, weezyrider@yahoo.com [digital-photography] wrote:
 

I don't know what Kindle tracks, but I read the TOS for a Nook I bought and there were 2 affiliates you could NOT opt out of. You could opt out of B&N and one affiliate. Nook was unregistered. I'm still using it. It uses a micro SD card. There are independent ebook sellers. I like Sci Fi, Baen and Double Dragon sell decent stuff reasonably.

I also wouldn't want Nook or Kindle able to delete any book I bought in good faith. If either goofed, it's their problem. I would not make the book available illegally, though.






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